Chrome Molly Cage Votes

[luke_how]

Just to get an idea of whose for and against:)
No Discussion on this thread it is only to put up your vote.

[shabby]

Just so we know who voted for what, don't be shy.


I voted ban Chrome Molly

[matt mead]

i voted for ban aswell

[Rally Angel]

This poll will only show the votes of those active on this forum. It will not allow for those not active on this forum BUT definitely active in this series. Just active forum users voting does not justify the answer we are seeking.

Obviously, Ethan and I are 2 of the votes to allow chrome molly.

[Whitey]

Anyone is welcome to join the forum, so we can expect a flood of registrations from CrMo supporters.:rofl:

[Latho]

I voted ban aswell... When you can find me someone in Australia that can do it properly, I'll reconsider my vote... Find out 1. The lenths that nascar go to to do it properly, and 2. Why painting of CrMo cages in banned in drag racing, then you'll have a greater appreciation of why others and myself don't beleive its good for the series...

On a local note we had a 7yr old WRX last year with a CrMo cage driven by a novice in his first rally (ok, so that's stupid enough in itself), in a rallysprint last year leave the road at UNDER 100KM/HR, and had several bars seperate from the main cage, one of which ended up 1" into the navigators chest, and leaving them both in hospial... Sorry guys, for a 7yr old CrMo cage to fail as much as this one did at half the vehicle's capable speed is a joke...

Properly constructed CrMo cages, require the enitre cage to be heated up several times during the construction process (including once to glowing), then quenching etc. All of which needs to be done in a jig...

Chrome-Moly is an alloy of steel that is stronger than DOM. Some people have the misconception that Chrome-Moly is much lighter than mild steel, but the truth is that they both weigh about the same. But with Chrome-Molly you can get away with using smaller diameter tubing, thus reducing the total weight of the cage. Be sure to check if the sanctioning body that you will be competing under allows the use of Chrome-Moly tubing.

A big disadvantage to Chrome moly is that it must be heat treated to get close to its full rated strength. This means that the heat affected weld zones on a Chrome Moly cage can be significantly weaker. A Chrome Molly tends to be more brittle and less malleable, making it more likely to fail under repeated impacts and less likely to absorb crash energy.

[Whitey]

I voted for banning it.
If three roll cage manufacturers in two states reckon that the Excel series is no place for Chrome Moly, there's all the proof anyone should need.

[luke_how]

I voted ban it along with every person in Tasmania who I have spoken to about the series.

[Andrei]

Ban them...

[Trevor]

I voted to ban them as well.

[Glenn]

I voted for ban.

[Crazy Dave]

I voted for banning them and are actually interested in hearing the wider community thought rather than just competitors. The greater rally community should be able to provide some interesting perspectives without being too close to the situation.

[Mooa42]

I voted to ban, but I am being guided by price, (no experience with cages), can some of those voting for express an opinion on why they might be voting for? Is it just a weight thing? If so how much are we talking?

If chrome moly was/is a safer option, i.e. better cage then I might be swayed to allow, (still couldn't afford one though).

[Crazy Dave]

I voted to ban, but I am being guided by price, (no experience with cages), can some of those voting for express an opinion on why they might be voting for?

Read through the last few pages of the National Vehicle Regulations/Eligibility Thread for all the various discussions on this

[ernysp76]

I voted for its use but I'm pro-choice to spend money on safety I do think a weight penalty should be included for those in the Excel Series though.

[luke_how]

14 votes to 6 at the moment, it seems as thogh were better of leaving the regulations as they were originally.:hail: